Researcher David Lifton has written good material supporting the fact that Lee Oswald was innocent of killing JFK, but how he treats witnesses leaves something to be desired. We know that he has given other researchers instruction as to what to tell the press, should the name "Judyth Vary Baker" come to be mentioned (a name Debra Conway and David Lifton have worked on, together, to be kept from being mentioned at conferences, etc.). Lifton's and Conway's thrust in censorship was largely successful for nearly a decade. Consider that I, JVB, first spoke out in 1999...). "The Lifton Manifesto" -- written by Lifton in 2003 -- urges researchers to tell members of the press that I, Judyth Vary Baker, am "looney" --should my name come up --- along with other strategies to discredit me and to keep my story under wraps.
THE LIFTON MANIFESTO WAS CREATED TO HAVE AN EXCUSE TO DISCREDIT ME. WHAT COULD BE EASIER THAN TO SIMPLY HAVE A PSYCHIATRIC 'DIAGNOSIS' PRONOUNCED ON ME, WHENEVER MY NAME WAS RAISED IN A SERIOUS DISCUSSION FORMAT?
IN MARCH, 2010, DR. JIM FETZER EXPERIENCED AN EXAMPLE OF THE "LIFTON TREATMENT" HIMSELF, FROM RESEARCHER JACK WHITE, AFTER FETZER PLACED A TOPIC, "JUDYTH VARY BAKER IN EXILE" ON THE EDUCATION FORUM. THAT THREAD WOULD PROVE TO BE THE LONGEST THREAD IN THE FORUM'S HISTORY.
SADLY, THE EDUCATION FORUM'S MODERATORS ALLOWED THE "LOONEY" CHARGE AGAINST ME TO BE POSTED MORE THAN ONCE, AND TO STAND, DESPITE THE FACT THAT I WAS A MEMBER OF THE FORUM, AND SUCH NEGATIVE SATEMENTS ARE FORBIDDEN. BLOCKED FROM DIRECTLY RESPONDING TO MY CRITICS, FETZER PASSED MY REPLIES ON TO THE FORUM. HE WAS ALSO ACCUSED OF WRITING THE REPLIES HIMSELF ON MORE THAN ONE OCCASION, AND IN OTHER WAYS, HIS INTEGRITY WAS IMPUGNED.
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THE "LIFTON MANIFESTO" PROVED USEFUL IN CREATING SOME NEGATIVE PRESS COVERAGE OF MY STATEMENTS AND TESTIMONY. THE BOOK "ME & LEE" WILL SOON BE PUBLISHED BY TRINE DAY. WE EXPECT A FEW NASTY REVIEWS FROM THE USUAL FEW PEOPLE WHO HIDE THEMSELVES UNDER LOTS OF FAKE NAMES. THEY CAN BE IDENTIFIED BECAUSE THEY USE AD HOMINEM ARGUMENTS AND NEVER USE DIRECT QUOTES OR SUPPLY REAL INFORMATION. IT'S ALL DEFAMATION OF CHARACTER. STATING THAT I AM INSANE, UGLY, OLD, OR HAVE BLUE EYES, THEY SPEW OUT THEIR ACCUSATIONS, WHICH HAVE RECENTLY AKEN ON RAHER DESPERATE TONES. THEY SEEM TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE FINALLY GOING TO GET A GOOD PORTRAIT OF THE REAL LEE HARVEY OSWALD.
I FEEL SORRY FOR MARINA OSWALD PORTER. POOR WOMAN! WHAT SHE WENT THROUGH! I DO NOT FAULT HER AT ALL FOR ANYTHING SHE SAID. SHE HAD HER LITTLE TODDLER AND SMALL BABY TO PROTECT, AND LEE WAS DEAD. I AM SORRY I HAVE TO SAY SOME THINGS ABOUT HER IN THE BOOK THAT MIGHT HURT HER FEELINGS. MASRINA OSWALD PORTER TODAY IS NOT THE YOUNG WOMAN WHO LEFT THE USSR WITH HER AMERICAN HUSBAND. SHE HAS CHANGED. SO HAVE I. WE MUST LIVE WITH OUR PAST, BUT THAT DOES NOT MEAN THAT WE HAVE NOT EVOLVED AND MATURED. I READ HOW MUCH HER CHILDREN RESPECT THEIR MOTHER. I KNOW SHE'S WORKED VERY HARD IN HER LIFE TO PROTEC HER CHILDREN, AND I PRAY HAT SMEDAY WE WILL MEET AS FRIENDS, FOR EXONERATING HER HUSBAND WLL LIFT THE GREAT BURDEN HAT HAS BEEN ON MARINA'S SHOULDERS. IN A WAY, SOME OF THAT BURDEN HAS BEEN NOW PLACED ON ME.
THE "LIFTON MANIFESTO" IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF THE BURDEN I HAVE TO CARRY.
EVERYONE NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND THAT A MEMBER OF AN INTERNET NEWSGROUP SUPPORTING THE "OFFICIAL VERSION" --THAT OSWALD WAS GUILTY -- WROTE AN EXCORIATING, NASTY REVIEW OF "THE LOVE AFFAIR " -- THA DOCUMENTARY ON HE HISORY CHANNEL THAT AIRED AS PART OF THE MEN WHO KILLED KENNEDY SERIES, IN 2003 -- A NASTY REVIEW WHICH WAS POSTED HALF A DAY BEFORE "THE LOVE AFFAIR" ACTUALLY AIRED.
THERE WILL NO DOUBT ALWAYS BE SOME POSS OUT THERE WITH NASY THINGS TO SAY ABOUT ME. I NO LONGER CARE: THE BOOK IS FINISHED, I HAVE DONE WHAT I COULD.
MY GOAL NOW IS TO TRY TO HELP PEOPLE ANY WAY I CAN TO NAVIGATE THROUGH THE CHALLENGES THAT LIFE THROWS A ALL OF US WHO HAVE CARING HEARTS AND COMPASSION FOR ALL THAT LIVES. I KNOW THAT EVIL PEOPLE WALK AMONG US AND DO GREAT HARM: THEY HAVE NO SOUL. POLITICAL PONEROLOGY IS A BOOK WITH FLAWS, BUT ONE FACT STANDS OUT: SOME PEOPLE WHO LOOK NORMAL AND ACT NORMAL AND MIGHT SEEM FRIENDLY CAN ACUALLY BE DOWNRIGHT EVIL. THEY COME FIRST. SACRIFICE IS FOR OTHERS. USING HATE AND POWER ARE WHAT THEY EXCEL AT. IF I STAND FOR ANYTHING AT ALL, I STAND FOR LOVE.
LOVE TRULY CAN CONQUER ALL. IN MY CASE, IT FINALLY GAVE ME THE COURAGE TO SAND UP AND SPEAK FOR LEE HARVEY OSWALD.
I'M NO HERO. MY HANDS SHOOK AS I LAID OUT THE PIECES OF EVIDENCE I HAD AND WONDERED IF THERE WAS ENOUGH. I WAS SO VERY MUCH AFRAID. I TURNED OUT I HAD A RIGHT TO BE AFRAID. YOU WOULD NOT WANT TO BE IN MY SHOES.
BUT THROUGH IT ALL, I HAVE FELT A GREAT HAND UPON ME THAT DID NOT SHAKE WITH FEAR: I FELT THE HAND OF GOD STEADYING ME. POOR AS I AM SPIRITUALLY, I KNOW GOD HAS USED ME. IT HAS MADE UP FOR MY PAST ERRORS, THE ERRORS OF A YOUTH WHO BELIEVED THAT ALL IN AUTHORITY OVER ME SURELY WERE 'GOOD.'
REMEMBER THAT HITLER WAS ALMOST WORSHIPPED. SIMILARLY, I ALL BUT WORSHIPPED THE GREAT SCIENTISTS AND DOCTORS, INCLUDING NOBEL PRIZE WINNERS, WHO GUIDED AND MENTORED ME, WITHOUT DISTINGUISHING AMONG THEM AS TO THE MOTIVES OF THEIR HEARTS.
WHEN ALL IS SAID AND DONE, A PURE HEART IS WORTH MORE THAN DIAMONDS.
BUT BACK IN 1963, I DID NOT REALIZE THAT POWER AND GLORY AND EVIL MIGHT BE FOUND TOGETHER IN WHAT SEEMED TO BE GREAT MEN.
THOSE WHO SUPPORT THE FINDINGS OF THE WARREN COMMISSION ARE DEVOTEES OF UNTRUTH, FOR THEY'RE TOO INTELLIGENT NOT TO SEE HOW OSWALD WAS FRAMED AND USED TO HIDE THE COUP THAT DISGRACED OUR COUNTRY'S LEADERS.
FOR THE YOUTH OF TODAY, AUTOR DEAN HARTWELL HAS WRITTEN A FINE BOOK HA WON;T WASTE YOUR TIME, BUT WILL SET YOU ON THE RIGHT PATH AS TO UNDERSANDING WHAT'S WRONG WITH OUR GOVERNMENT: THE BOOK IS CALLED DEAD MEN TALKING.
IN ITS PAGES, YOU WHO WILL INHERIT WHAT EVIL MEN DID TO THIS WONDERFL COUNRY, AMERICA, WILL SEE, LAID OUT BEFORE YOU, WHAT'S WRONG WITH AMERICA TODAY. IT LIES IN THE PEOPLE'S ACCEPTANCE OF EVIL. AN EVIL DEEP AND TREACHEROUS AND PERVADING. AN EVIL THAT CAN ONLY BE HANDLED THROUGH KNOWLEDGE OF THE TRUTH.
PEOPLE, YOU MUST START CARING ABOUT THIS COUNTRY!
ONLY YOU--THE PEOPLE--- CAN CHANGE THINGS.
IT HAS TO BE FROM THE BOTTOM UP--THE TOP IS CORRUPT AND NEEDS TO BE CUT OFF, LIKE A HYDRA'S HEAD.
A GOOD EXAMPLE OF A GREAT STATESMAN AND PATRIOT IS DR. DANIEL ELLSBERG.
IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHO THAT IS, FIND OUT ABOUT HIM NOW!
AND IF YOU READ ANYTHING BAD ABOUT HIM, YOU CAN MARK OFF THE WRITER AS ONE OF "THEM."
IT'S TIME TO GET YOUR HANDS ON THE BOOKS I LIST BELOW, AS WELL AS HARTWELL'S BOOK, DEAD MEN TALKING:
REMEMBER --ANYTIME YOU FIND A NEGATIVE REVIEW OF ANY OF THE BOOKS I'VE LISTED BELOW, JUST AS IN THE CASE OF ELLSBERG, JUST AS IN MY CASE, TOO, YOU CAN BE SURE YOU'RE LOOKING AT ONE OF THE PROTECTORS OF THE EVIL POLITICAL SYSTEM UNDER WHICH WE ARE CURRENTLY SUFFERING.
CAN YOU IMAGINE? WE'VE LOST SO MANY HUMAN AND CIVIL RIGHS. THE SUPREME COURT SAID CORPORATIONS CAN BUY POLITICAL CANDIDATES THROUGH HUGE "DONATIONS." PEOPLE ARE READING YOUR EMAILS AND LISTENING TO YOUR PHONE CALLS IF THEY WISH--WITHOUT YOUR KNOWLEDGE OR PERMISSION. PRIVACY IS A THING OF THE PAST. A MAN'S HOME IS NOT HIS CASLE--IT CAN BE INVADED BY POLICE AT ANY TIME. KICK IN THE DOOR AND ROUND 'EM UP....
IF YOU WANT MORE OF THE SAME, IGNORE THE BOOKS BELOW AND WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY. THEY WLL CONVINCE YOU THAT A GOVERNMENT THAT THE PEOPLE DID NOT ELECT TOOK OVER OUR COUNTRY.
THAT GOVERNMENT GAVE US OUR FIRS PRESIDENT APPOINTED, NOT ELECTED: GERALD FORD--A MEMBER OF THE WARREN COMMISSION! THAT GOVERNMENT GAVE US OUR FIRST PRESIDENT WHO WAS FORCED TO RESIGN BECAUSE HE WAS SO CORRUPT--RICHARD NIXON. HAT GOVERNMENT TOOK FROM US JOHN KENNEDY, BOBBY KENNEDY, AND MARTIN LUTHER KING. THAT GOVERNMENT THRUST US INTO THE VIETNAM WAR, THE GULF WAR, THE IRAQ WAR, AND THE WAR IN AFGHANISTAN. IT THRUIST US INTO A BOGUS 'WAR ON TERROR' GAVE US POLLUTION UNIMAGINED IN OIL DRILLING, GAVE US BANK FAILURES AND LET THE GREEDY CROOKS GO FREE, SADDLING YOUR CHILDREN AND THEIR CHILDREN WITH THE BILLS. YOU ARE CONFRONTED WITH ORDERS TO TAKE FLU VACCINES, YOU ARE NOT GIVEN A CURE FOR CANCER, BUT YOU'RE GIVEN HUGE MEDICAL BILLS--THE MOST EXPENSIVE IN THE WORLD.
WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME YOU FELT SAFE IN YOUR CITY?
IF YOU WANT CHANGE, GET THE BOOKS I LIST FOR YOU, BELOW, INTO THE HANDS OF YOUR FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS.
HELP US HELP YOU.
THE 90% WHO LET EVERYBODY ELSE DO ALL THE WORK OF PROTECTING THE REST OF US FROM THE 'BAD GUYS' IN POLITICS WILL REAP THE LEAN HARVEST OF SORROW, UNLESS THEY ARE MOVED TO ACTION. HELP US, THE TEN PERCENT WHO ARE DOING ALL WE CAN TO EFFEC CHANGE, TRUE CHANGE. AND DON'T BLAME OBAMA. WHAT CAN ONE MAN DO IN A SYSTEM WHERE EVERYTHING HAS BEEN SET UP TO RUN FOR YEARS JUS AS THE SHADOW GOVERNMENT WANTS?
DO YOU LOVE YOUR COUNTRY? PROBABLY, THE YOUNG PEOPLE DO NOT. THEY'VE BEEN AUGHT TO SEE THE FALTS AND FLAWS OF OUR GREAT FORMER PRESIDENTS. THEY'VE BEEN TAGHT TO THINK ONLY OF 'ME FIRST.' THEY HAVE NOT LEARNED THE CLASSIC LESSONS. THEY ARE ALMOS ILLITERATE.
DUMB AND SELFISH IS THE GOAL, SO THEY WON;T CARE ABOUT ANYTHING BUT BREAD AND CIRCUSES. WE CAN ONLY CHANGE OUR CHILDREN THROUGH A GOOD EDUCATION THAT INCLUDES A RENEWED RESPECT FOR CHAMPIONS OF LIBERY, LIFE, AND THE BILL OF RIGHTS.
STEP FORWARD, BUY THE BOOKS I'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT: DOUG HORNE'S INSIDE THE ARRB, JIM MARRS' CROSSFIRE,THE PLOT THAT KILLED KENNEDY, EDWARD HASLAM'S DR.MARY'S MONKEY, MY OWN BOOK--ME & LEE, HOW I CAME TO KNOW, LOVE AND LOSE LEE HARVEY OSWALD, AND JAMES DOUGLASS' MASTERPIECE, JFK AND THE UNSPEAKABLE--WHY HE DIED AND WHY IT MATTERS.
IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT DEBRA CONWAY OF LANCER REFUSED TO INVITE AGING GREEN BERET HERO DAN MARVIN TO SPEAK AT LANCER. HE HAS PROVIDED EVIDENCE THAT WITNESSES IN THE JFK ASSASSINATION MATTER WERE BEING KILLED OFF BY THE GOVERNMENT.
NOR WOULD CONWAY ALLOW MARVIN'S BOOK, EXPENDIBLE ELITE, TO BE SOLD BY HER LANCER ORGANIZATION, DESPITE THE FACT THAT HE AND TRINE DAY PUBLISHERS WON THEIR LAWSUIT, AGAINST GOVERNMENT-SUPPORTED CHARGES, PROVING THAT DAN MARVIN TELLS THE TRUTH. BOTH MARVIN AND I HAVE EXPRESSED OUR WLLINGNESS TO TESTIFY BEFORE CONGRESS BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE.
AT ONE TIME, THE LANCER ORGANIZATION WAS PRESSING TO HAVE AMNESTY SECURED FOR ALL JFK ASSASSINATION WITNESSES (1999). WE STILL BELIEVE THAT WITH AMNESTY, A NUMBER OF WITNESSES BESIDES DAN MARVIN AND MYSELF WOULD STEP FORWARD TO PROVE OSWALD'S INNOCENCE AND THE REALITY OF A COUP D'ETAT AGAINST JOHN F. KENNEDY.
THOSE WITH AGENDAS CAN SOMETIMES CAUSE AS MUCH TROUBLE FOR WITNESSES (WHO HAVE LAID SO MUCH ON THE LINE) AS OUTRIGHT ENEMIES OF THE TRUTH. DAVID LIFTON SAYS HE IS STILL WORKING ON HIS LONG-DELAYED BIOGRAPHY OF LEE HARVEY OSWALD, WHICH WAS ORIGINALLY SUPPOSED TO BE PUBLISHED IN 2000. BUT LIFTON ADMITTED HE NEVER DETECTED MY NEW ORLEANS-BASED LIASON WITH LEE OSWALD. IF HE DID ADMIT TO IT, HE WOULD HAVE HAD TO REWRITE HIS ALREADY LONG-DELAYED BOOK (HE WAS HELPED IN WRITING IT BY CONWAY)AND WOULD HAVE HAD TO HAVE MADE EXTENSIVE CONTACTS WITH ME TO DETERMINE THE EXTENT OF THE LIASON AND THE EVIDENCE FOR IT.
INSTEAD, LIFTON DECIDED IT WOULD BE MORE TO HIS ADVANAGE, IT SEEMS, TO WORK TO DISCREDIT ME, PARTIALLY BASED, ACCORDING TO HIS OWN WORDS, ON WHAT HE THOUGHT WAS MY FAILURE TO DESCRIBE OSWALD'S ATTIRE ON APRIL 26, 1963, ACCURATELY. HOWEVER, DR. JAMES FETZER, EXAMINING THE SO-CALLED 'FAILURE,' PUBLISHED INFORMATION SHOWING I COULD BE CORRECT, SINCE OSWALD'S AUNT STATED HE HAD NOTHING 'DECENT' TO WEAR FOR ANY INTERVIEWS WHEN HE FIRST CAME TO TOWN, WHICH DATE WAS ESTABLISHED AS APRIL 25, 1963, THE DAY BEFORE OSWALD MET ME, MUCH AGAINST LIFTON'S OBJECTIONS (WHICH TURNED OU TO BE UNTENABLE).
SINCE LEE AND I PARTED EARLY ON THE 26TH BECAUSE LEE HAD TO BE ELSEWHERE (LIKELY, HE HAD TO DRESS UP FOR THE JOB INTERVIEW), AS I HAD LONG REPORTED, THERE IS NO CONFLICT IN DRESS, SINCE OSWALD WOULD HAVE TO HAVE GONE TO HIS AUNT'S HOME TO OBTAIN CLOTHES TO WEAR TO THE INTERVIEW. ON A MAP, IT CAN BE SEEN THAT "OSWALD MET BAKER AT THE MAIN POST OFFICE AND ESCORTED HER TO THE DOWNTOWN YWCA." FROM THERE, HE COULD TAKE A BUS TO HIS AUNT'S HOME ON 757 FRENCH STREET. THE SO-CALLED CONFLICT DID NOT EXIST, SINCE FOR THE REST OF THAT DAY -- THE GREATER PART OF IT, IN FACT--OSWALD WAS NOT WITH JUDYTH BAKER. HOWEVER, LIFTON REFUSED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT I COULD HAVE SEEN OSWALD WEARING WHAT LIFTON TERMED "SHABBY" CLOTHES.
I SOON REALIZED THAT I HAD NEVER STATED THE WORDF "SHABBY" IN MY SINGLE TELEPHONE INTERVIEW WITH LIFTON EARLY IN 2000. IT'S A WORD I NEVER USE IN MY SPEAKING VOCABULARY. THEREFORE, I KNEW LIFTON WAS NOT QUOTING FROM THE TAPE RECORDING HE MADE OF OUR CONVERSATION. HE WAS QUOTING, INSTEAD, FROM A PURLOINED VERSION OF AN UNAUTHORIZED 'TEASER' BOOK TO WHICH HE SHOULD NOT HAVE HAD LEGAL ACCESS AT THE TIME HE QUOTED THE WORD "SHABBY."
THAT WORD HAD BEEN INSERTED -- IT WAS WHAT I CALLSED A "FLAG"--A DELIBERATELY INSERTED WORD THAT HAD BEEN INTENDED TO STOP THE BOOK FROM BEING PUBLISHED AS "AUTHORITATIVE." THE ORIGINAL 'TEASER' BOOK WAS OVERSIMPLIFIED, HAD MUCH INFORMATION MISSING, AND WAS HEAVILY MARKED WITH 'FLAGS' TO STOP PIRATING. AN HONEST PUBLISHER WOULD HAVE BEEN PROMISED THE DEFNITIVE VERSION. HOWEVER, IT SEEMS LIFTON GOT HIS HANDS ON A PIRATED VERSION ANYWAY.
LIFTON WENT SO FAR AS TO REJECT DR. FETZER'S POSTED INFORMATION, CORRECTING HIS QUOTE ABOUT OSWALD'S ATTIRE, EVEN THOUGH IT WAS LOGICAL.
INSEAD, LIFTON PERSISTED IN HIS ATTEMPTS TO DISCREDIT ME, OFFERING OTHER OBJECTIONS, ON OTHER ISSUES, NONE OF WHICH HELD WATER.
UPON BEING CORRECTED, INSTEAD OF AGREEING THAT HE MIGHT HAVE ERRED, LIFTON LEFT THE DISCUSSION FORUM.
WITHIN WEEKS, HOWEVER, HE PUBLISHED A WHOLESALE ATTACK AGAINST FETZER, ESSENTIALLY ACCUSING HIM OF ANTI-SEMITIC LEANINGS IN FETZER'S ONGOING SERIES OF NINE-ELEVEN INVESTIGATIONS.
LIFTON ALSO COULD NOT FORBEAR MENTIONING FETZER'S SUPPORT OF ME AS EVIDENCE OF FETZER'S POOR REASONING ABILITIES AND POOR JUDGMENT IN FETZER'S NINE-ELEVEN INVESTIGATIVE WORK.
WAS LIFTON BEING HONEST?
LIFTON STATED HE WAS FRIENDS WITH MARINA OSWALD AND HER DAUGHTERS. THAT TURNED OUT TO BE UNTRUE: I PRODUCED AN EMAIL FROM RACHEL OSWALD WHERE SHE AVERRED THAT SHE DESISED LIFTON, ASKING IF I AGREED THAT LIFTON WOULD SELL HIS OWN MOTHER. LIFTON, TOO, HAD REFUSED TO SEND DR. FETZER A COPY OF HIS TAPE OF OUR CONVERSATION MADE IN EARLY 2000. THAT TAPE HAD BEEN MADE WITHOUT MY KNOWLEDGE OR PERMISSION, A FELONY IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.
I SAID I WOULD NOT PRESS CHARGES AGAINST LIFTON IF HE RELEASED A TRUE COPY OF THE TAPE TO FETZER. THIS LIFTON REFUSED TO DO, POSSIBLY BECAUSE HE HAD INDICATED THAT I HAD SAID "SHABBY" ON THE TAPE WHEN I KNEW I NEVER DID --MEANING THAT HE HAD LIED AS TO WHAT I HAD SAID ON THE TAPE.
BECAUSE NOW SO MUCH TIME HAS PASSED, ANY COPY OF THE TAPE THAT LIFTON NOW MIGHT RENDER COULD HAVE BEEN ELECTRONICALLY MANIPULATED, AND THAT INCLUDES THE ORIGINAL.
TO CLARIFY: LIFTON'S RENDERING OF ONLY SELECT FRAGMENTS OF THAT TAPE, AND HIS ERRONEOUS INTERPRETATIONS OF THE STATEMENTS HE DID SELECT FROM IT, DISPLAYED AN INACCURATE UNDERSTANDING OF MY STATEMENTS, WHICH DR. FETZER HAD POINTED OUT CLEARLY TO LIFTON, WHO THEN FLED THE JOUSTING FIELD.
"THE LIFTON MANIFESTO"
"THE LIFTON MANIFESTO" WAS CREATED BY DAVID LIFTON IN 2003 TO USE TO DISCREDIT ME SHOULD ANYONE IN THE MEDIA ASK A RESEACHER ABOUT ME.
IT IS OBVIOUS THAT LIFTON WROTE MORE THAN WHAT HAS BEEN PRESENTED IN THE "LIFTON MANIFESTO." THE MANIFESTO IS A 'FINAL WORD' ON HOW TO HANDLE THE 'BAKER PROBLEM.' WHAT LIFTON SAID CONCERNING THE 'BAKER PROBLEM' CAN ONLY BE GUESSED. HOW ACCURATE OR TRUTHFUL THOSE STATEMENTS MAY HAVE BEEN CAN BE JUDGED BY WHAT LIFTON HAS REVEALED AS HIS OBJECTIONS ON THE ILLEGAL APING HE MADE OF OUR CONVERSATION -- OBJECTIONS THAT TURNED OUT TO BE POORLY FOUNDED.
THE "LIFTON MANIFESTO" -- SO NAMED BY RESEARCHER PAMELA McELWAIN-BROWN -- WHO HAS COME OUT AGAINST IT AS A PROPAGANDA WEAPON AGAINST ME, IS SHOWN BELOW, WITH SOME HISTORY AND REMARKS ABOUT THE MANIFESTO, FOLLOWING. RESEARCHER PAMELA McELWAIN-BROWN AND RESEARCHER MARTIN SHACKELFORD PRESENTED COMMENTS TO A NEWSGROUP REGARDING THE MANIFESTO AND ITS GOALS:
from David Lifton e-mail, July 19, 2003:
"ADVICE FOR ANYONE CONTACTED BY A REPORTER. . .
"* Ask: what pieces of evidence or narrative history impress
you?
Inform them that most are not original with Judyth ; tell them where
they have previously been published and what's wrong with them.
Explain
existence of publicly available chronologies, and how Judyth "inserts"
herself.
"* She's a loony. Provide phone numbers of people who have
dealt with her and know that.
"(Don't argue that her evidence and narrative are wrong
*because* she is a loony. That is the ad hominem fallacy. But
pointing out that she is in fact a loony is not.
"Regarding Shackelford: Point out his relationship with Harrison
Livingstone, and the $ 100 million lawsuit he filed accusing fellow
researcher of murder conspiracy; and multi-year co-dependent
relationship he has had with Judyth. (Refer to contact at 60 minutes
for how Shackelford was pushing this phony story, etc.)"
This is the email I have defined as the "Lifton Manifesto".
Pamela :-)
Pamela had been quoted on the McAdams newsgroup for her observations that their disdain of my story may have been fueled by their hatred of Jim Garrison (McAdams & Co. such as Barb Junk. belong to an anti-Garrison email group. Garrison was the only person to ever bring any aspec of the JFK assassination to a trial. The film JFK (director's uncut version) portrays what Garrison went through trying to find a way to uncover the Coup d'etat against Kennedy, using Clay Shaw as his excuse for the investigation.
WROTE PAMELA:
"...I think they may have been comfortable in their little worlds thinking
Garrison had been sufficiently buried until Judyth came along. Then, it
seems the outrage began to intensify, and to be focused on her.
Just look at Lifton's outrage, for example. Did Judyth really push all
his buttons on her own, or is his reaction also from his fury at Garrison?
Then there's also Reitzes, whose web pages on Garrison may appear at first
glance to be objective, but in fact are quite negative. His outrage over
Judyth's coming forward is reflected in the tone of his page on Judyth. Is
there a connection? Of course, Judyth is referencing David Ferrie, David
Lewis, Jack Martin, and the entire cast of the Garrison investigation, so
perhaps she's dumping salt in their old wounds." Pamela McElwain-Brown
1/13/08
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.assassination.jfk/tree/browse_frm/...
"So now Barb is compelled to jump in and play shrink ? Why not answer
candidly from your own experience? Is your posting to each and every
Judyth thread fueled only by antagonism toward her, or toward Garrison as
well? Pamela McElwain-Brown 1/14/08
MARTIN SHACKELFORD EXPLAINED A BIT ABOUT THE MANIFESTO. WE HAVE SINCE LEARNED THAT IT ALSO WENT TO other newsgroups.
MARCH 6, 2008:
What I've said is that Lifton, through a handful of close associates, fed
material they believed make Judyth look bad, to McAdams, knowing that he
already considered her a fraud, and would likely take whatever they sent
him at face value (as we are accused of doing with anything Judyth says).
In addition, I've noted that Lifton sent out a "guidance" telling people
how they should respond to press inquiries. No animals or ETs required.
Martin
(TO WHICH ENEMIES IN THE NEWSGROUP ADDED PARTIAL AND EVEN FAKED QuOTES FROM EMAILS, SOME OF WHICH I NEVER WROTE:)
You seem to forget the e-mails from others in which they claim to be
quoting Judyth--but don't provide the full source.
Martin
ON SEPT. 6, 2004, RESEARCHER ANTHONY MARSH COMMENTED:
Gee, I wonder where Lifton learned that tactic? I seem to remember seeing a memo describing ways to counter WC critics.
IT TURNED OUT THAT MARTIN SHACKELFORD ALSO RECEIVED A COPY OF THE LIFTON MANIFESTO.
A LOT OF PEOPLE DID. PAMELA SUMMARIZED EVERYTHING IN A POST TO THE NEWSGROUP THA TOUGHT THE MANIFESO WAS JUS FINE:
>>But then that seems to be the issue with those following the Lifton
>>Manifesto -- they have already decided not to have an open mind regarding
>>Judyth's statements and then create a strawman and claim that her
>>statements are not credible.
>--->ONE REPLY WAS: Is Mr. Duffy of US News and World Report aware that he is also apparently
>following the "Lifton Manifesto"?
BUT DUFFGY HAS WRITTEN SOME 15 PAGES IN USN&WR PRAISING GERALD POSNER OF 'CASE CLOSED' FAME WHO SAID 'OSWALD DID IT.' HE WAS PROTECING HIS REPUATION BY DAMAGING MINE. IT IS NOW CLEAR THAT POSNER CLAIMED TO INERVIEW SOME PEOPLE HE NEVER INERVIEWED, MISREPORTED SOME EVIDENCE, AND IN MANY OTHER WAYS SLANTED THE EVIDENCE IN FVAOR OF THE WARREN COMMISSION AT THE EXPENSE OF THE TRUTH.
A LOOK AT THE PIECES ABOUT POSNER'S FAILURES TO TELL THE WHOLE TRUTH CAN EASILY BE FOUND ON THE INTERNET.
HOWEVER, DUFFY DID ME NO FAVORS BY DISSING ME AND THEREBY COVERING HIS OWN DERRIERE. HE TOLD SIXY MINUTES THAT I HAD 'NO EVIDENCE' ACCORDING TO CBS SIXY MINUTES PRODUCER DON HEWITT, WHO COMPLAINED TO C-SPAN THAT 'WE HAD THE DOOR SLAMMED IN OUR FACES' OVER THE STORY HE, MIKE WALLACE AND PHIL SCHEFFLER TRIED TO FILM THREE TIMES OVER A PERIOD OF FOURTEEN MONTHS.
PAMELA ENDED THE NEWSGROUP ARGUMENT ABOUT HE LIFTON MANIFESO, WHICH NOT A SINGLE ANTI-OSWALD NEWSGROUP MEMBER OBJECTED TO, EVEN THOUGH IT WAS ALL DIRTY TRICKS, AND LIES, KJNENDED TO RIN MY REPUAION, WITH THIS COMMENT:
Are you refusing to acknowledge the email that Lifton sent to some
researchers describing which tactics to use to discredit Judyth? That has
nothing to do with me; it has everything to do with the fact that Judyth
was not allowed an open forum right from the start.
Pamela :-)
BELOW IS YESTERDAY'S MEMO FROM DAVID LIFTON INSINUATING THAT FETZER IS ANTI-SEMITIC. INTERESTINGLY, THE EMAIL BEGINS WITH THE WORDS "I REGRET" --THE SAME TWO WORDS THAT BEGAN THE SO-CALLED "MARY FERRELL DENOUNCES JUDYTH VARY BAKER" EMAIL THAT WAS SENT TO THE SAME HOSTILE NEWSGROUP.
IN ADDITION, THE OPENING STATEMENT IS ENTIRELY SEPARATED FROM THE LENGTHY 'MEMO' THAT FOLLOWS AS A "FOERARDED MESSAGE"--EERIELY RESEMBLING THE 'ATTACHMENT' IN THE "MARY FERRELL" EMAIL UNDER DISPUTE THAT ATTACKS ME ON MANY FALSE GROUNDS. BELOW, WE CAN SEE THE SAME STYLE IS USED AS WAS FOUND IN THE "MARY FERRELL" EMAIL, AN EMAIL THAT HAS SO MANY PROBLEMS ASSOCIATED WITH ITS INACCURATE STATEMENTS, ITS BELONGING TO DEBRA CONWAY INSTEAD OF TO THE NEWSGROUP ADMINISTRATOR, ITS SUSPICIOUS HEADER, WHICH INCLUDED EFFORTS TO CHANGE THE TIME STAMPS, ETC.
IS THE FORMAT AND OPENING STATEMENT ALL A MERE COINCIDENCE?
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> Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 03:39:44 -0700
> Subject: FW: DSL Memo on Jim Fetzer, Israel, and 9/11
> From: dlifton@earthlink.net
> To: dlifton@gmail.com
>
> I regret having to send out this memo, but the line has to be drawn
> somewhere.
>
> While I believe certain critical evidence was falsified in the JFK case (and
> that pursuing that constitutes a legitimate area for research and debate), I
> cannot be associated in any way whatsoever with the views of Prof. Jim
> Fetzer in the area described below.
>
> DSL
>
>
> ------ Forwarded Message
> From: "David S. Lifton"
> Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 14:57:49 -0700
> To: David Lifton
>
> Subject: DSL Memo on Jim Fetzer, Israel, and 9/11
>
> * * * FROM THE MEMO I WROTE THAT IS IN THE ATTACHED FILE* * *
>
> DSL Memo to file:
>
> RE: Jim Fetzer, Israel, and 9/11
>
> In connection with his 9/11 activities, Jim Fetzer enthusiastically
> promotes a book titled ³Stranger than Fiction², by one Albert D. Pastore
> Ph.D. (a pseudonym). The book is available at a website called
> ³WhatReallyHappened.com²
>
> I just learned about the book‹and Fetzer¹s podcasts (which apparently have
> been around for some months)‹this morning. Fetzer sent me, and several
> others, an email in which he was highly critical of Jim DiEugenio¹s review
> of Doug Horne, and was giving me, and my work, high praise.
>
> So I of course clicked on the link(s) he provided, and was pretty surprised
> (to put it mildly) at what came up (links about 9/11) and then where one of
> them led‹to Fetzer¹s Internet radio broadcasts on his show ³The Real Deal.²
>
> In a series of podcasts, Fetzer reads the entire book‹³Stranger than
> Fiction²-- in about five segments.
>
> Below find a group of links to this book, i.e., to Fetzer¹s podcasts, etc.
>
> I listened to several of the podcasts‹it is the ³Israel did it² line, but
> much more: a rather broadbased revisionist history going back to the early
> 20th century, about the creation of Israel, how the Jews are responsible for
> the financial woes of the world (and the U.S.); for U.S. financial policy;
> how the Jews are responsible for World War II (which Hitler did not want, at
> all, according to this author‹i.e., it was all the fault of the Jews)‹and
> finally, of course, how Israel is responsible for 9/11.
>
> As Fetzer reads the book, there is an assortment of anti-Jewish and
> anti-Israel illustrations‹some might call it anti-Semitic political
> pornography. Each person will have to judge this for himself (or herself).
>
> I have to say (at this point) and just to clear the air‹that I do not think
> Jim Fetzer is anti-Semetic. What I do believe (and most unfortunately) that
> he is not sufficiently discriminating (some would say indiscriminating) in
> choosing what to believe. In this issue, I do not think he is an
> enlightened radical; I think he is behaving like a complete fool.
>
> I do not know 20th century history as much as I¹d like, but I sure as hell
> know the JFK case, and I have watched Fetzer do this once before‹I have
> watched him journey down this ³Judyth² path, entering, subscribing to, and
> promoting a world of make-believe.
>
> This whole anti-Israeli line is another example of Fetzer¹s ability (if not
> propensity) to ³connect the dots² in some way that I find not just illogical
> but‹frankly‹just plain ridiculous.
>
> I have no idea what provokes Fetzer to go down this path‹but then, I have no
> idea why (in the area of the JFK case) Fetzer believes in Judyth, which I
> believe to be another case of subscribing to something that is part of the
> world of ³make believe.²
>
> In the next page of this document, I am listing the various links (but they
> are not ³live² because I am going to put this document in pdf format).
>
> Then, on the following pages, come the Amazon dot com page about this
> bizarre book; and a page with the major pro and con review. And then another
> book that is advertised as a ³cousin² of sorts (i.e., ³those who bought this
> book Œalso bought¹ that one² etc.). That book is titled ³The Life of an
> American Jew in Racist, Marxist Israel²; and, as one rstates, it is ³Crude
> anti-semetic nonsense. . .strictly propaganda for the right wing loonies.²
>
> And then, finally, on the remaining pages, I am inserting the various
> imagery that is shown, on Fetzer¹s podcast, as he reads from ³Stranger than
> Fiction.² It is all virulently anti-Jewish and anti-Semitic
> propaganda‹really low class junk. Yet there is Jim Fetzer, reading from
> this book, while all this inflammatory anti-Semitic imagery is flashing on
> the screen.
>
> Of course, a collateral mystery (or ³mystery²) is just who is ³Albert D.
> Pastore, Ph.D.² who, as Fetzer points out, has ³some connection² (I think
> his words were) with philosophy.
>
> The imagery used by Fetzer appears at the end of the attached memo. It is
> violently anti-semitic and highly inflammatory.
>
> DSL
>
>
> * * * MORE FROM THE ATTACHED MEMO * * *
>
> What this is: Basic links I have been surfing re Jim Fetzer and 9/11, the
> book he is promoting on his podcasts, and the graphics he is using to
> promote the thesis that Israel is responsible for much of the woes of the
> 20th century, for provoking Hitler to start World War II, and that Israel is
> responsible for 9/11.
>
> Immediately below are some links‹especially to the book, ³Stranger than
> Fiction,² which Fetzer strongly recommends (and is promoting).
>
> In Section two of this document are the Amazon pages pertaining to this
> book.
>
> In Section three of this document are the graphics Fetzer uses in connection
> with his podcasts, reading from the book, and promoting the thesis that Jews
> are responsible for many of the woes of the 20th century, and that Israel is
> responsible for 9/11.
>
> http://article.wn.com/view/2010/06/04/Fetzers_endorsement_puts_tea_party_on_
> boil/
>
> Albert D. Pastore Ph.D.
>
> Link to the book ³Stranger Than Fiction Part 1²
>
> http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/stf1.html?q=stf1.html
>
> To part 2:
>
> http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/stf2.html?q=stf2.html
>
> To parts 3, 4, and 5:
>
> http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/stf3.html
>
> http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/stf4.html
>
> http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/stf5.html
>
> HOME PAGE FOR ³What Really Happened . com²
>
> http://whatreallyhappened.com/
